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Diesel / Gas fuel price delta

I see some postings where people are comparing their analysis of diesel vs gas for payback. Our prices move some, but in general


85 octane - 3.49
87 octane - 3.59
91 (premium) - 3.71
Diesel - 3.60

So diesel generally falls right around the midgrade. Considering the higher grades of fuel for most gas turbos, it's borderline a wash on the fuel cost, but diesel has more energy.

How close is the gap where you live?
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Not here....87 yesterday the lowest I saw was 2.89. Diesel lowest price was 3.59. I ended up paying 3.69 cause I also wanted to fill my Def & the truck stop I went to had Def at the pumps.
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In Southern Ontario, I see $1.19 l for diesel and $1.25 l for gas that equates to $4.50 diesel and $4.73 gas per US gallon.

You still need to figure out mpg. If you're comparing your travel cost between an ED and Pentistar without towing, they're pretty close, but the ED does much better than the Hemi.

If you calculate the cost per 100 miles of the ED and whatever gas truck you're comparing to, you will have a better comparison of driving cost.

(of course you have to figure DEF, maintenance, towing load et all, to get a true cost but were just talking fuel here,)
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Wow, Canadian prices suck. I'm surprised too since you guys seem to have good oil reserves in canada, i think alberta is one of them.
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Wow, Canadian prices suck. I'm surprised too since you guys seem to have good oil reserves in canada, i think alberta is one of them.
Heha, yea... The largest Oil/fuel refinery in Eastern Canada is two hours away and it costs more here then four more hours beyound my home town. I can drive 15 min to the US side of the Border and get my fuel (from the same brand/fuel/ and same tanker truck) for 2/3 of the price. I know it is the same tanker becasue I followed it from Canada and saw it pull in while I was filling up.

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Wow, Canadian prices suck. I'm surprised too since you guys seem to have good oil reserves in canada, i think alberta is one of them.

It's all about exchange rates and taxes. We have oil but it's sold at world market prices, no discount for local. Road taxes are high too, that's dumped on ever gallon we buy. I agree is sux and I've been know to cross the border and fill up.
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It's all about exchange rates and taxes. We have oil but it's sold at world market prices, no discount for local. Road taxes are high too, that's dumped on ever gallon we buy. I agree is sux and I've been know to cross the border and fill up.
Its the process, bitumen is expensive to extract, highly energy intensive process. EROI on the tar pits is PISS POOR.

Oil Sands Mining Uses Up Almost as Much Energy as It Produces | InsideClimate News

Ostensibly I would say that is the largest reason for higher pump prices in CAN. Higher pump prices keep the tar pits in the black...



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Its the process, bitumen is expensive to extract, highly energy intensive process. EROI on the tar pits is PISS POOR.

Oil Sands Mining Uses Up Almost as Much Energy as It Produces | InsideClimate News

Ostensibly I would say that is the largest reason for higher pump prices in CAN. Higher pump prices keep the tar pits in the black...
I don't disagree with you however, higher prices in Canada have been the case for much longer than the oil sands have been in production. I used to fillup across the boarder in 1980.
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I don't disagree with you however, higher prices in Canada have been the case for much longer than the oil sands have been in production. I used to fillup across the boarder in 1980.
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Here in central and south Florida, diesel is about 50 cents a gallon MORE than regular gasoline. Rarely is it less and often it is slightly more.


Now percentage-wise that's say 15%. My truck gets upwards of 50% better towing mileage than comparable gas engines (if they can tow at all) . Someimes, compared to both of my friends' Hemi's. It's closer to 100% better towing mileage.


Normal running finds me getting in the 40-50% better fuel economy.
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