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I know I'm looking like the whiny baby with a wet diaper, but I would think long & hard about your decision. By now, you've heard from other's misfortunes and success as well as your own. Ram has a great opportunity here, but my opinion is they are screwing the pooch with lack of parts, training, & poor quality.
Toyota is obviously doing something right with their Tundra (Made in Texas with more USA parts than Ford or GM). If they'd offer a similar economy minded diesel, I'd be all over it! I used to be the die-hard made in America, buy American, but I have been patient long enough for the Big 3 to make a lasting vehicle with great customer service.
I truly hope that if you choose another Ram, you get your money's worth and have few to no problems! Good luck!
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I've already owned one Tundra & had ONE small issue with it. The A/C was overfilled once & had to spend a few days in the shop while they purged & tested the system. They fixed it good as it never came back. I did have issues with the Toyo tires it came with & after getting those swapped out for a much better tire, that was it! No complaints AND I had a loaner car!!!
I'm not saying Toyota is flawless, but Consumer Reports gives them the top truck marks. All I'm saying is on average, Tundra has less problems than the Ram & I also realize that Ram sells more than twice what Tundra sells, but they are catching up.
Getting back to the original question, I would think that MSRP vs MSRP is good. Makes no matter about incentives and buying since that is not a factor. You surely were put out by the problem but did get some use from the old (?new?) one. I kind of like it.
As for buying a truck from a Jap company, talk it up a bit later when Dec 7th is not on the American mind. As an American and remembering the stories my dad told me, I just cannot see how any American could deal with that.
As for buying a truck from a Jap company, talk it up a bit later when Dec 7th is not on the American mind. As an American and remembering the stories my dad told me, I just cannot see how any American could deal with that.
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Well said......both parts. Visited that beautiful memorial June 27 2005 and I will never forget the emotions going through me.
Craftmp. ...Sucks this happened to you but I'm glad ram is taking care of you. Best of luck with your new ride. I absolutely love my ecodiesel laramie! Every one of my 4600 miles have made me smile!
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Not happy that this happened but it looks like you're getting taken care of.
As far as picking a different manufacture, I think that if you go to any of the other MFG enthusiast forums you will find someone with a catastrophic failure, and probably some chronic issues as well.
The ecodiesel is a very small part of the entire RAM population. We have a real focus on this site on one segment of one manufacturer so problems will look larger than they are. ( not counting this blown intercooler ).
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Good point - not something that I think about normally. I can appreciate that previous generations feel that way towards Japan or others. I have traveled to Japan & found they are mostly excepting of Americans. The younger generations are not the one's that attacked Pearl Harbor, just as we are not the plantation owners buying and using slaves. Today's world is very different & our economies are now much more dependent on each other vs. what existed during WWII. I'm not saying we all need to go buy Toyotas; to each his own. Our Ram has an Italian engine & German transmission...
I'll not be around to know but sure wonder what the future status on this is for Americans.
I mean, we are now being attacked and slaughtered by Muslim factions around the world. If they would make cars in the future, would our people buy them to the detriment of our own manufacturers?
Something to think about, heh?
I mean, we are now being attacked and slaughtered by Muslim factions around the world. If they would make cars in the future, would our people buy them to the detriment of our own manufacturers?
Something to think about, heh?
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I myself would not buy a vehicle made under those conditions or from a potential enemy. However, what about all the American vehicles made in Canada and Mexico? What about all the German, Korean & Japanese manufactures that build vehicles here in the US from US sourced parts that pays American workers?
I have not seen a Lada, but after Googling, it looks like a piece of trash. I would not consider Russia, China or North Korea a friend of the United States. South Korea, Japan & Germany are countries I would consider friendly and we are partially responsible for their national defense.
Getting back to the topic; I love my truck, but I hate the circumstances that force me into the corporate bureaucracy. I'm getting too old to play that game again and I'm sure others are too. Each person should evaluate what's important for them and what they can accept or not. That's all I'm really saying.
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MSRP buy back
Can you give me a description on how to go about getting the MSRP to MSRP process?
craftmp.....we have the identical oil cooler failure on our 2015 including engine replacement and now after only 248 miles since the repair, it has oil in the coolant again.
Can you give me a description on how to go about getting the MSRP to MSRP process?
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