[Panther Dash]

I was just curious about what vehicles people owned before the RAM EcoDiesel. Are most of the people here RAM loyalists, or did the Ecodiesel get some good conquests on its competitors with the Diesel Ram?

 

[Tim]

The EcoDiesel is our 5th Ram, but I can assure you it was not a loyalist decision.

Actually my wife was going to get a fuel efficient other vehicle; however her coworker lost all 3 children in an accident (husband & kids driving to pick her up from work, drunk driver t-boned them). This changed my Wife's mind to hold out for about 1.5 years for the Ecodiesel.

 

[mattyj724]

First truck iv owned. But not even close the the first i have driven. I used to drive trucks often. Mainly company pick ups.

 

[Accused]

will be my first RAM, coming from Ford...

Tim as terrible as that story is, its true, no matter how many safety stars said vehicle has there's nothing safer than size.

 

[zoomie]

I had an 03 Expedition that was loaded, and also a POS. Also had an old F-150 that was as basic as it comes and a good work truck. This will be my first truck in about eight years.

 

[GDE]

First new truck, old one was a 2006 Chevy 2500 Duramax. It is not a good comparison powertrain as the Duramax can pull massive loads and power is way above the ecodiesel. Fuel economy on the other had is much better with the Ram eco diesel.

In the 1500 class truck, I think a 4.0l engine would be a better balance for towing and still have good fuel economy. The 5.0l Cummins going into the Titan this fall or early next year will be another game changer. It will be interesting to see what they certify the fuel economy as with the EPA.

Ford has a mothballed 3.0l diesel and 4.5l diesel that will most likely make its way into the F150 within 4 years. GM also has a small V8 diesel that may see action in this segment as well.

Ram started a good thing, but the competitors are definitely taking notes. If the consumer market is receptive, we will see many more diesels in the truck segment.

Note: The GM Colorado will have a 2.8l diesel next year that should be over 30mpg.

 

[zoomie]

First new truck, old one was a 2006 Chevy 2500 Duramax. It is not a good comparison powertrain as the Duramax can pull massive loads and power is way above the ecodiesel. Fuel economy on the other had is much better with the Ram eco diesel.

In the 1500 class truck, I think a 4.0l engine would be a better balance for towing and still have good fuel economy. The 5.0l Cummins going into the Titan this fall or early next year will be another game changer. It will be interesting to see what they certify the fuel economy as with the EPA.

Ford has a mothballed 3.0l diesel and 4.5l diesel that will most likely make its way into the F150 within 4 years. GM also has a small V8 diesel that may see action in this segment as well.

Ram started a good thing, but the competitors are definitely taking notes. If the consumer market is receptive, we will see many more diesels in the truck segment.

Note: The GM Colorado will have a 2.8l diesel next year that should be over 30mpg.

All good points.,

The most important new feature that all these OEM's need to be chasing is MPG in a full size truck. Anything else will flop. Because we already have the winning truck formula and it's V8 gas by a long shot. If you can't differentiate your truck by a good margin, people will just get a hemi.,

I think the new emission standards are a road block for North American manufacturers. Clean diesels have just not been on their radar. The only one that was close was GM with the VM Motoi motor and they had to get out of that joint venture.

Europeans have been developing diesels for decades. That's why VW is the only one to have success with it in a car in NA.

The big three have a dismal record for designing diesel engines. It's like it's just a sideline while they focus on electric.

 

[L.O.A.]

I had an 03 Expedition that was loaded, and also a POS. Also had an old F-150 that was as basic as it comes and a good work truck. This will be my first truck in about eight years.

I have heard a lot of bad things about those expeditions, also expolorers from that time.

Thankfully I have never gone Ford in the past, but, their products are seeming to improve.

 

[maverick]

I have had an old 88 Chev 1/2 ton, then a 2005 GMC Jimmy, then gave that to the wife and got an 06 F150 which was just recently left on a chrysler lot for a ecodiesel SLT crew cab 4 x 4. So far no regrets at all. This is my first Chrysler product ever.

 

[10%More]

Dodge /Ram

There's some semantic issues in the poll. Not sure when the first "Ram" pickup was built but think it was sometime in 2012. Prior to that they were built by the DODGE division of Chrysler. There was no RAM brand but just a model built by Dodge division of Chrysler.

When you tell people you have a Ram truck many will question what that is. I mean the Dodge brothers made vehicles about a 100 years ago and built some name recognition during that time.

If answered correctly my take is very few owned a Ram truck before this current model. I/we owned Dodge trucks.

 

[Panther Dash]

There's some semantic issues in the poll. Not sure when the first "Ram" pickup was built but think it was sometime in 2012. Prior to that they were built by the DODGE division of Chrysler. There was no RAM brand but just a model built by Dodge division of Chrysler.

When you tell people you have a Ram truck many will question what that is. I mean the Dodge brothers made vehicles about a 100 years ago and built some name recognition during that time.

If answered correctly my take is very few owned a Ram truck before this current model. I/we owned Dodge trucks.

Well I think you dissected the question quite a bit here. "Dodge/Ram" maybe I should have wrote instead. I really don't think it is that confusing though.

 

[Tim]

There's some semantic issues in the poll. Not sure when the first "Ram" pickup was built but think it was sometime in 2012. Prior to that they were built by the DODGE division of Chrysler. There was no RAM brand but just a model built by Dodge division of Chrysler.

When you tell people you have a Ram truck many will question what that is. I mean the Dodge brothers made vehicles about a 100 years ago and built some name recognition during that time.

If answered correctly my take is very few owned a Ram truck before this current model. I/we owned Dodge trucks.

Yeah, technically you are right, however, I would take the poll to include past and present versions of these trucks.

 

[jr838]

We had a 78 Dodge W150, 2 vans, a dakota and now the ED all were good but didn't like the vans. Still see the W-150 around town.

 

[Accused]

As I said earlier I'm coming from a Ford, but I just stopped and thought about it for half a second, I've never EVER driven anything but Fords... We were stictly a ford family growing up and I guess I just picked up the bug

 

[sabmgb]

Will go with just new vehicles
1974MGB still have
1985 ford explorer 2
1988 Chev S10
2000 Dakota
2004 Dakota
2008 Escape still in family
2013 Pathfinder
2014 RAM 1500 ED don't take posession until next week

 

[Panther Dash]

I think that the truck market has a lot of brand loyalty. It takes a lot to get someone to switch sides.

 

[ben]

No.

Every Dodge/Ram vehicle I have owned has been a diesel, the Eco makes my 3rd.