I had an 03 Expedition that was loaded, and also a POS. Also had an old F-150 that was as basic as it comes and a good work truck. This will be my first truck in about eight years.
Is the Ram EcoDiesel the first RAM truck you've owned?
I was just curious about what vehicles people owned before the RAM EcoDiesel. Are most of the people here RAM loyalists, or did the Ecodiesel get some good conquests on its competitors with the Diesel Ram?
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First new truck, old one was a 2006 Chevy 2500 Duramax. It is not a good comparison powertrain as the Duramax can pull massive loads and power is way above the ecodiesel. Fuel economy on the other had is much better with the Ram eco diesel.
In the 1500 class truck, I think a 4.0l engine would be a better balance for towing and still have good fuel economy. The 5.0l Cummins going into the Titan this fall or early next year will be another game changer. It will be interesting to see what they certify the fuel economy as with the EPA.
Ford has a mothballed 3.0l diesel and 4.5l diesel that will most likely make its way into the F150 within 4 years. GM also has a small V8 diesel that may see action in this segment as well.
Ram started a good thing, but the competitors are definitely taking notes. If the consumer market is receptive, we will see many more diesels in the truck segment.
Note: The GM Colorado will have a 2.8l diesel next year that should be over 30mpg.
All good points.,
The most important new feature that all these OEM's need to be chasing is MPG in a full size truck. Anything else will flop. Because we already have the winning truck formula and it's V8 gas by a long shot. If you can't differentiate your truck by a good margin, people will just get a hemi.,
I think the new emission standards are a road block for North American manufacturers. Clean diesels have just not been on their radar. The only one that was close was GM with the VM Motoi motor and they had to get out of that joint venture.
Europeans have been developing diesels for decades. That's why VW is the only one to have success with it in a car in NA.
The big three have a dismal record for designing diesel engines. It's like it's just a sideline while they focus on electric.
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