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from one guy that commented on that article....

drawmer wrote on 2014, November 19 - 00:01 Permalink
why don't you all stop trying to justify this epic failure. They could have made a very good diesel engine and took the market by storm. No one cares for this expensive aluminum if it only makes the dam thing more expensive. This is the company that couldn't fix the caster issue on super duties and bill hew from atlanta (powerstrokehelp) solved all by himself. All the ford idiots couldn't figure it out but a man from hick town backyard Alabama did. why are we even surprised that the truck blows. Ram offers real technology, Diesel. something trusted and proven.
- See more at: First Published 2015 Ford F150 MPGs Well Short of Ram EcoDiesel - Torque News
now that is something i'd actually like to see them do, F150 diesel.
 

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^^Ha^^

That guy is funny. I don agree that the aluminum is kinda a waste if it doesn't make the truck much better other than making it more expensive. I don't think that Ford is going to back down or regret its decision.
 

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F150 vs Ram Eco Diesel

I traded my 2013 F150 in on my 2014 ECO Diesel. I had nearly 10,000 towing miles with my 25 ft ultra light TT. It gave me a low of 8 MPG to a high of 11 if I was lucky. I did not baby the 150 nor did I drive like a mad man.
I was reading about this Ram as soon as the blogs started and I made up my mind I was going back to the Ram as soon as I found what I wanted. This is my 4th Ram, a 91,95 and 03 1ton and this 1500 will be my last.
Granted I have not yet towed a thing with it but compare the cost of driving this 1500 each time I have filled it up The first fill up saved me $16.00 dollars and the 2nd fill up it was a little under $12.00 savings vs what it would have cost for the F150.,
I have a ledger in the truck now and will keep tract of the difference cost wise each time I fill up. I figure the cost of the DEF is offset by not having to change oil every 3 to 4 thousand mile. :|
 

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I am glad that RAM took the jump and put a diesel in 1/2 Ton truck ( I own a jeep Liberty CRD with a 2.8L VM Motori Diesel and love it). The Ram Ecodiesel just can't meet my TT towing needs whereas my Ford F150 Ecoboost can. The best part about RAM going the Diesel Route is the option...some love Diesels (I am one of them).


For my Supercrew 4x4 : 1900# payload and 9600# towing (11,200 if you add the Max Tow)


RAM Same Config : 1040# payload and 7650# towing


By the time you add tongue weight and 1 driver...I would be over the payload capacity.


I still would love to own one...get www.GreenDieselEngineering.com to do an upgrade on the ECU...and diesel down the road. On my Jeep the HOT TUNE from them did this:


Stock: 165hp/295torque
HOT : 200hp/365torque
...and better mileage


If my 2012 Ecoboost was a 2015 with aluminum...I would have about 700# more to fool around with...
 

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surprise, surprise....

But ford is the winner for one sole reason. Marketing. a light weight aluminium truck is more digestable than a sterotypically dirty diesel. For those who shop by slogan the Ford carries more traction because of that IMO...
 
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