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Hi, first I'll introduce myself, 2014 Ram 1500 ecodiesel 15k kms, SLT 4x4 super crew built date 08_2014
I have been having problems as its well known with CEL coming on with the dreaded p20ee and DEF problems.
This is unacceptable that there is no recall for this. we can't keep quiet and blame it on the cold climate( although even ppl in warmer climates are having this issues). I bought this truck based on all those good reviews I wish I could talk to those reviewers and see what they have to say about these trucks now. Every time I hear that beep from the check engine light I go not again. Please guys speak up that we can get some results. Thanks
 

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I'm 15,000 miles in and flawless so far!

Oil change, HID upgrade, and rotating tires. Well i did have one flat so far so Its hasn't been completely flawless. But tires have nothing to do with the truck.

Took it to on two 700 mile round trips this week and 26 MPG on the first and 28 MPG on the second. This is all going 5MPH over the speedlimit. 90 % interstate.
 

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I have the same issues as well. 5th time back at the dealership for issues related to the emission system. New cat converted installed this week. Next week, big question mark!!!!
 

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Well, here I am again. Yesterday April 13, CEL back on again, code P24C6. 6th time back to dealership with emissions issues. They are looking after me, but I have to travel 65 kilometers every time.
I talked to a service rep at Chrysler and asked for an entire emission system change. They said that they will change parts as they fail. How many times will I have to go back?
Stay tuned!!!!!!!
 

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Cat converter fix

I had the same prob with the p020ee code. Dealer changed 02 sensor. Did not fix. They then replaced cat converter. I have now put 8k miles, no issues, no more codes.
 

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My truck has 14500 miles and is been in the service 17 days already for code 20ee, they replace the O2 sensor, cat converter but still with the same problem. I think ill put a claim for Lemon law. Any advice
 

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5300 miles and so far the only problem has been a faulty TPMS in the left rear tire. The dealership said that there had been a bad batch and replaced all four. Other than that, just an oil change and the truck has been flawless.
 

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2014 ED...Larime Crew Cab mfg date 08-2014, 8 weeks old starter fried due to "poor factory ground," I threw a ck engine light in late March (8000 miles) and they said the PCM was fried so could not retrieve the code, repair two days later and drove it about 600 miles and threw anothe ck engine light, went to another dealer and they said it was the P020EE code, reset it and did "nothing else" said it was a residual code and I have been driving it since (11,444 miles today). I looked on line and the P020EE code has had issue with DEF injectors, DEF line cloggin, and O2 Sensors/Cat issues....I always drive it with anticipation of that ding and light now, what a way to have to enjoy a $50K purchase, I will think long and hard before buying another Chrysler/Ram product, and this is my second RAm. My son and I each had bought two together, but if any further problems develop, maybe no more. He bought the Hemi both times, guess he outsmarted me on the ED vs Hemi Choice. ED has not been proven out well, and certainly not supported well by Chrysler/Ram.....from what I read and hear, poor concern for their customers, long wait for parts, and far too many issues for my liking....I would think twice before purchasing the ED version of this truck....
 

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PUNCH #1 AND #2 CHECK ENGINE LIGHT ON . CODE p2OEE-00 SCR NOX CATALYST EFFICIENCY BELOW THRESHOLD BANK 1 . CHECK BULLETINS AND STAR (FOUND BULLETIN NUMBER 18-045-14 ) (265PUNCI-11) PERFORMED DIAGNOSTICS FOR P2OEE. CHECKED DEF CONCENTRATION FOUND DEF FLUID OK AT 32.5%. REMOVED DEF INJECTOR AND PERFORMED INJECTOR QUANTITY MEASUREMENT TEST. TEST PASS AT 30ML. FOUND DECOMPOSITION TUBE IS PLUGGED WITH DEF CRYSTALLIZATION. CALLED JAMIL AT TECHLINE AND HE ADVISED TO CLEAN TUBE THOROUGHLY AND FLASH PCM TO LATEST SOFTWARE LEVEL. CAREFULLY CLEANED DECOMP TUBE. (265PUNCH2) FLASHED PCM TO LATEST SOFTWARE LEVEL. ALL OK NOW.
 

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2014 1500 4x4 crew cab big horn. Around 34,000 miles. At about 12,000 the CEL went on, went to the dealer, he pulled the code and said it was because the gas cap was not screwed on tight enough. I explained to him that the diesel fuel cap is a plastic plug and did not screw on. He said 'Oh, must be a glitch somewhere', he reset the code and all was fine until about 25,000 miles. CEL comes on again and it was a P20EE. He flashed the ECU, reset the code and I did not even make it home before the CEL came back on. I have an OBD II reader, so, I check it and it was a P20EE again. I reset the code myself and all is well until around 29,000 when it comes back. But, the CEL goes out after about 500 miles, then comes back for a few hundred, then goes back off, ...., then goes back on and has been on for the last 2,000 miles.

So, I take it to yet another dealer, he reflashes the ECU again and the CEL comes back in about 20 miles. I call the dealer from my cell and he says he cannot look at it again until next week. I reply thanks but no thanks.

Now, I am upset.

So, I take it to yet another dealer about an hour and a half from me and he is the only one that actually looked at the DEF injector, sees all sorts of crud, checks the DEF (the fluid itself) and says it is well within tolerance. He cleans the DEF injector, resets the code, drives it for around 100 miles and the P20EE returns. So, he ordered a new cat converter which should arrive tomorrow morning. In the meantime I am driving a loaner 2015 1500 2x4 crew cab, big horn with the hemi in it. It is a nice truck, lots of pep, but the MPG sucks. I get around 19 AVG while my ED was getting in the high 20s consistently.

So, assuming that the new cat fixes it, I think the lesson here is that you need to have your truck serviced by someone who actually knows WTF to check for and DO. All these other dealers just seem to want to get you out the door as quickly as possible and a ECU flash seems to be the answer for everything. If reflashing the ECU is the only thing your dealer is going to do and the CEL comes back, then find another dealer.

The service manager at the new dealership took a genuine interest in my problem; the other ones did not seem to give a twit. He said he has seen a *lot* of issues with the DEF system on the jeep EDs, but only 1 other one on the RAM ED.
 

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So I just had my cat replaced after having the p20ee code on for about 10k miles which 9k was put on in two wks time..
Also recall work done too. Hope this one last...
 

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Posted the following on the service/troubleshooting forum yesterday but figured it would be worth doing so here as well. It's possible some of the dealers are misdiagnosing the DEF/emissions/cat. conv. issues and it is, instead, a problem with the PCM software. Guess I'll find out if the software patch worked over the next 1.5 months during which I'll be driving a total of ~3,000 miles.

Chrysler issued Service Bulletin #18-021-15 REV. C on June 10, 2015 (supersedes 18-021-15 REV.B, 5/28/15). This service bulletin states, in part…

"This bulletin involves reprogramming the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) with the latest available software. It also involves replacement of the Oxygen (O2) Sensor and cleaning or replacement of the Exhaust Gas Temperature (EGT) Sensor 1/2 if necessary depending on Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC) that may have set."

The bulletin applies to 2014 EcoDiesels. The bulletin continues…

"A small number of customers may experience an intermittent engine shudder or vibration which may not set a Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC). In addition other customers may experience a Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) [a.k.a., CEL] illumination upon which the technician may find one or more of the following DTCs…"

The bulletin then lists 38 error codes! The upgraded software also addresses enhancements to improve A/C compressor relay duty cycle operation to prevent ignition off battery draw and powertrain system improvements to enable EGR cleaning routine.

So… an iterative fix: (1) software upgrade, (2) if problem continues, replace the O2 and/or EGT sensors. I drove out with just the software upgrade and no CEL light.
 

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Boy I'm not sure.

I want to purchase one of these new 2015 ecodiesels, however after reading many reviews I'm worried about putting my money out for one.

I went down to test drive and it seemed to drive ok. I only put on a few miles on.It's all these issues I'm reading about that are holding me back.

The dealership is offering $4000.00 Factory rebate, and another 4350.00 dealership rebate. Over 8K off a 2015 Ram ED 4X4 crew cab short bed.....

With options the MSRP is $47,775. Once you deduct 8K for incentives another 2600 for my trade, and 3500.00 down i'm financing around $32000.00.

It's in my budget, but I need time to really think about it. Just wish this bad news would go away.....
 

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Don't go by just a few folks having trouble on this site. They are having trouble for sure but this is such a small cross section of real users. When things go bad people look for an outlet and this seems to be one of them, when things are going well, you don't tend to look for sites like this. In General!

I have 30k miles on my 2014 since November 2014 and love every minute of it. No issues at all.
 

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Ram 1500 Eco-Diesel DEF Problem

Like other eco-diesel owners here, we are going through the nightmare of having gotten the message "wrong DEF fluid detected". The dealer told us we needed to replace the SCR system at a cost of $6,000 plus labor, on our dime$$!!! because the fluid was contaminated. The truck only has 6,000 miles on it. Well, our truck has been at the dealer for three weeks now. The latest is that they tried to flush the system (and not replace) but the CEL light came back on after test drive and the truck went into shut down mode. So, they are at a loss as to what to do. I will refer them to this thread and have them try replacing the cat and/or censor to see if that resolves the problem. Wishing I had not bought a Dodge at this point.
 

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What? there is only one type of DEF fluid...however, it does have a shelf life.

Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF) is a non-hazardous solution, which is 32.5% urea and 67.5% de-ionized water. DEF is sprayed into the exhaust stream of diesel vehicles to break down dangerous NOx emissions into harmless nitrogen and water.
 

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Diesel Exhaust Filter PROBLEMS

I'm having problems with the Diesel exhaust filter regen process.
Bought the 2014' 1500 SLT Quad May 2014.
I was getting some highway driving by going across the border every 2nd week for fuel savings in the US.
Once the savings didn't justify the drive I have been buying fuel in the city.
I use the vehicle running around the city with a trailer and loved it till the first of several issues.
6 months ago the Drive on Highway for regeneration dashboard notice came on. I couldn't drop everything and take the drive 20 minutes to section of road to regen!
When the filter hit 90 %, it gave me litterley 20km before the Electronic Throttle Control cuts the power to 3rd gear and a max of 60km!
LIMP to the dealer!
Dealer didnt even know how to rectify the issues!
3 WEEKS with a loaner 1500 4x2 HEMI gas PIG! They had to install another exhaust filter(big ticket for them)BIG frustration for me!
Now 6 months later I have had the same issue, 90% full time to regen!
I run a busy contracting business in the "city"!
If I want to avoid spending 1-2 days without my RAM 1500 I must make it to the highway(and drive at highway speeds for 20 minutes) every time the dashboard warning comes on regardless of my schedule! BULLSHIT!!!
 

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When I bought my truck, due to REGEN issue some were having, I immediately bought the Edge Insight CS2, to monitor Soot levels. This way you can take care of the issue before you get the 80 percent full.

REGEN will start at about 65 percent. The EGT 2 and EGT 3 need to push the temperature over 1000 F to 1250 F. This won't happen, if your engine is cold, doesn't reach normal temperatures. You drive it like that, you will then get the EVIC Filter notice.

During summer weather and I average 100 km per day in city driving (contractor), no issue, the truck firmware handles it well. (FYI: REGEN distance between REGEN in city about 90km and over 200km on highway.)

However with the winter weather, it can become an issue. First of all, it takes about 30km for my radiator temperature to come close to normal temp (200 F) If it below that, like 2/3 warm, even though it calling for REGEN, it won't happen, because the EGT 2 and EGT 3 temperatures are under 1000 F. Just to cold of an engine to push for temperature over 1000 F.

If you never let it warm up, frequent stop/park, you will climb very fast to Soot levels over 80 percent. In fact, when cold, soot levels will climb 1 percent every mile or so. Also long idling/warmup raises soot level fast and ruin your fuel economy.

Solution: First of all, I'm going to check to see what season my Thermostat is and to be sure the thermal control shutter are working properly. If all okay, I may look at getting metal grill covers for the lower vents. Upper vents when -30c. According to other, it works.

Still, that is an oversight, as FCA could have added shutters for the whole radiator. Cheap, cheap, cheap FCA....... money first mentality.

Another concern, not knowing if you are doing passive REGEN (no indicators at all) (Active REGEN is when you get EVIC message). If you shut down your engine in a middle of REGEN, you will cause damage/warping to components, plus odours will occur. If you experience odours than it happen to you. Eventually a visit to the service department. The solution without having a monitor, is to idle a few minutes before shutting down to park. This info is in the truck manual.

So far, at 12,400 km, no issue and just yesterday, I added 10.00 of DEF at Flying J truck stop (bulk) for the first time. I was near empty/ needle at first white line, The 12.5 litres brought me to 3/4 full. I was aiming for 1/2 full, but had to prepay first. Like to keep DEF fresh, who know how many miles I be traveling this winter.
 
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I was at the dealer last week buying a couple a quarts of oil (mine used 1.5 qts in 1k miles). I asked service tech if I should bring it in for this oil consumption & he said no, but to note when you put it in & monitor the consumption thereafter. He also said they are having DEF injector problems with the non-Chrysler purchased DEF & to make sure you buy factory DEF. He seemed to have first hand knowledge of this problem & I didn't get the feeling he was just pushing their brand.
 

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Non-Chrysler DEF

I was at the dealer last week buying a couple a quarts of oil (mine used 1.5 qts in 1k miles). I asked service tech if I should bring it in for this oil consumption & he said no, but to note when you put it in & monitor the consumption thereafter. He also said they are having DEF injector problems with the non-Chrysler purchased DEF & to make sure you buy factory DEF. He seemed to have first hand knowledge of this problem & I didn't get the feeling he was just pushing their brand.
Diesel exhaust fluid is all manufactured the same. If the company that you purchase your DEF from is ISO 22241 and API Certified you know that it is good quality fluid. In fact as long as the urea concentration falls between 31.8 - 33.2% the fluid is perfectly fine! Chrysler's fluid is no different than any other company who has those certifications. FCA has huge problems with their SCR Sytems for the 6.7 diesel engines as well as the 3.0 diesels. There are multiple TSBs for the 6.7 and quite a few for the 3.0 as well! FCA is blaming the fluids instead of taking responsibility for their defective SCR Systems!!
 
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