[RAM_IT]

Not sure how I feel about my American made Ram running an Italian designed Engine.

Im sure its good and all... I know Lamborghini used to Make Tractors... But why didnt they use a cummins? Anyone know?

Would the Ram 1500 Diesel been better with a 4bt or a Real Diesel engine?

 

[DoYouLIFT]

Well, the company is 50% owned by GM as well. So what concerns you more... being Italian OR that GM designed The Engine thats now in a Dodge Ram? LOL

The company name is VM Motori. They Originally Partnered with GM to put the now 1500 Diesel V6 into one of the Euro Spec Cadillac's. They were about to and thats when GM went **** up. lol

Fiat bought Chrysler, yada yada yada, and how you have an Italian GM powerplant in your Ram! This is just too good!

 

[scatpack_69]

Fiat owns VM Motori, no other reason than that.

Ram screwed the pooch big time not going with the 5.0 Cummins that Nissan got

 

[DoYouLIFT]

Fiat owns VM Motori, no other reason than that.

Ram screwed the pooch big time not going with the 5.0 Cummins that Nissan got

GM owns half of VM Motori lol thats the funny part.

I agree... the cummins should have been used, maybe not the 5.0L but a real Diesel nonetheless. That will be a question for the engineers one day. I bet Fiat had a strong influence on that Engine being used.

Hmm, is the Promaster also using this 3.0L Engine then? Time to do some diggin.

 

[NothingToItButToDoIt]

GM owns half of VM Motori lol thats the funny part.

I agree... the cummins should have been used, maybe not the 5.0L but a real Diesel nonetheless. That will be a question for the engineers one day. I bet Fiat had a strong influence on that Engine being used.

Hmm, is the Promaster also using this 3.0L Engine then? Time to do some diggin.

Now Fiat owns 100% of VM

http://www.dieselramforum.com/forum...-diesel-engine-manufacturer-vm-motori-gm.html

 

[CamTakacs]

I think it's a very smart move on Rams part. Everyone will say it should have gotten the 5.0 cummins but in actual fact the 5.0 is not a good fit for the target market. The 3.0 is shooting for fuel economy not torque figures. That's EXACTLY what 1/2 ton truck buyers need and want.

I've got my 5.9 for work/play and want the 3.0 as a luxury grocery/commuter for my wife.

Cam

P.s. I am a little sad not seeing a C on the side of the 1500. Are there no 3.0 cummins !?!?

 

[scatpack_69]

I agree... the cummins should have been used, maybe not the 5.0L but a real Diesel nonetheless. That will be a question for the engineers one day. I bet Fiat had a strong influence on that Engine being used.

And what, exactly, is a "real diesel"?? Pretty sure BOTH the 3.0L EcoDiesel and the ISV5.0 are real diesels...

Of course Fiat played a part. I don't care what Ram says, the ONLY reason they ditched the 5.0L is because dollars and cents, period. Fiat wanted to in-source.

They can say it was mileage-based all they want, but they're lying.

I think it's a very smart move on Rams part. Everyone will say it should have gotten the 5.0 cummins but in actual fact the 5.0 is not a good fit for the target market. The 3.0 is shooting for fuel economy not torque figures. That's EXACTLY what 1/2 ton truck buyers need and want.

I've got my 5.9 for work/play and want the 3.0 as a luxury grocery/commuter for my wife.

Cam

P.s. I am a little sad not seeing a C on the side of the 1500. Are there no 3.0 cummins !?!?

I'll put money the actual mileage difference is negligible at best. The 5.0 has more power and weighs 300lbs more, but the difference on the highway won't be drastic.

 

[Accused]

Ok so now FIAT owns 100% of Mottori, want to bet they axe the cummins in the 2500 and 3500's... If they already own a supplier why outsource any longer. I'm not particularily worried about an Italian made Diesel, FIAT has been at the forefront of Diesel tech since the 80's. If I'm not mistaken they actually created rail injection...

 

[tugboat]

How reliable are VM Motori engines? Can't find much on them.

Inside The VM Motori 3.0L V6 Diesel Engine

We Get Inside The First Potential 1/2 Ton Diesel Engine

The guys at VM are located in the high-performance automotive equivalent of the Silicon Valley, with Lamborghini, Ferrari, and Ducati close by. The design of its V-6 is intended for firing pressures up to 2,940-psi, and the engine freely revs to 5,000 rpm. VM Motori has a passion for its engine designs, and according to Gale Banks it was, “the excellence of this engine [which]convinced me that it would be a rugged basis for what I have in mind for these new Special Operations vehicles.”
Banks went on to say, “We had first fire in our engine test cells on Friday May 4th, 2012 and my first impression was about the sound...this thing is sweet! The low-end response is excellent and it revs freely, which worries me. We've already designed a high-rpm capable aluminum intake manifold for it but, our Banks AutoMind diesel engine controller is only good to 7,800 rpm in its current form.”
A Banks version of the 3.0L VM Motori V-6 engine will be also be available to the general public as well, according to Banks. “Our initial build will be 240 hp and close to 500 lb ft with an engine weight under 500 pounds,” reports Banks.

http://www.dieselpowermag.com/tech/1208dp_banks_vm_motori_630t_v6_diesel_engine/#ixzz2qU3SzEaG
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Read more: Inside The Banks VM Motori 3.0L 630T V6 Diesel Engine - Diesel Power Magazine
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