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The (non-existing) payload... what? :mad:

The indicated payload in this chart is equal to max payload minus typical passenger weight.

Chart is from pickuptrucks.com.





To be fair, that is the lowest you can spec by choosing the biggest body, luxury trim, air ride, and the highest curb weight.
 

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what is the effect of gearing on towing? I notice only the ridgeline has a shorter ratio than the EcoDiesels 3.92, but the ridgeline only offers 5,000lb towing capacity..

The only reason i ask is because i noticed that the Silvy with 3.23's tows 6,000 lbs vs its shorter geared twin Sierra at 6,700 lbs... Considering everything is identical i figured it has to be the taller gears in the silvy that contribute to the 700 lb loss..

I would imagine the explanation for Silvys 3.23 vs Sierras 3.42 is that the silverado is marketed as having a greater fuel efficiency than F150 while Sierra is left to its own devices. Although the observed MPG only has the two differing by .1 MPG...
 

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Not to self, if caught on the highway side by side with a 2014 Tacoma that wants to do a rolling run... DO NOT ACCEPT CHALLENGE. Rather not get smoked by a toyota.
 

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And the 'Yota was the least expensive, too! Meaning......you could add lots of aftermarket stuff....exhaust, CAI, rims/tires, tint, bumpers, etc.
 

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Look at the curb weight. The ram is a loaded 1/2 ton weighs 1k more than the other half tons and 2k more than the 1/4ton trucks and get way better mileage.
 

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One intersecting point is in the light duty challenge ram actually beat ford in the course with a 1000 pound payload.basically I'm starting to believe that ram just is really conservative in payload ratings to protect themselves legally.
 

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One intersecting point is in the light duty challenge ram actually beat ford in the course with a 1000 pound payload.basically I'm starting to believe that ram just is really conservative in payload ratings to protect themselves legally.
Likely that's the case, they can't afford any extreme losses, Ford can to some point.
How can someone test a truck for themselves to see what it's real world towing cap is? I've always stuck by the manufacture ratings and never gone beyond.
 
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