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Hi Just bought a ED slt outdoorsman a few weeks ago. put 700 miles on it so far. I saw another thread that said some thing about a bluespark tuner but the website was European and there was no dollar amounts. does anyone know how much these cost? or is there others out there youv had experience with? And do these void your factory warranty?
 

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Don't know much about the tuners, but if the dealer can detect something has been altered, they sure can void your warranty. Now if you can get something that doesn't leave a "footprint", you may be ok. My .02, don't waste your money......seems like everything I've owned in the past that I've done performance mods something has went wrong and I always wonder if it would have happened without the extra power. A buddy of mine had a Cummins with some stuff done to it...ran great and when he kept his foot out of it, it got 23-24 mpg. But I can tell ya he never saved any money with the chip cause there was ALOT of unburned diesel rolling outta the 6" pipe!
 

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Any aftermarket part CANNOT just Void your warranty. The dealer has to prove that a modification caused the problem. And if they do, then only the part that was found to be broken due to the mod is out of warranty.

With that said, a tuner usually can be pointed to as a cause of engine failure. I wouldnt risk it on this engine. I had tuned my Challenger, however there were plenty of people before me that were the test bunnies. Id tune a cummins anyday
 

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RollnSmokeDiesel quit selling the Bluespark. It had some issues with communication but did work well. think it was just over $500. Also think it can leave a computer "footprint" that could be detected if you have dealer/warranty issues.


RollinSmoke is now selling a different model for around $500 that is a bit improved.


One fellow I discussed this with used a different unit and had his turbo fail. He was able to disconnect everything and got it by the dealer for a warranty replacement. Then he returned the tuner.


Play if you like but remember..."For everyone that plays, somebody pays".
 

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Any aftermarket part CANNOT just Void your warranty. The dealer has to prove that a modification caused the problem. And if they do, then only the part that was found to be broken due to the mod is out of warranty.

With that said, a tuner usually can be pointed to as a cause of engine failure. I wouldnt risk it on this engine. I had tuned my Challenger, however there were plenty of people before me that were the test bunnies. Id tune a cummins anyday
You are right in your statement and I wasn't exactly the clearest, but I have a couple buddies that have had issues with a new truck that was turned up and they were both denied claims as the dealer found aftermarket mods that "over stressed" components which ultimately led to failure.

I just don't want to see some inexperienced individual that is on this forum make a decision that could ultimately cost thousands out of pocket due to a mod.

I 100% agree with you second point though. And others that are reading, do realize our trannys are only supposed to good for somewhere around the 515 ft.lbs. range. I saw one ad for a tuner that well exceeded that and first thing I thought of was that would be a great way to smoke a transmission.
 

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Thanks guys. I was actually looking at a performance chip called G Force. It says on the website that it does not reprogram ur ECU thereby preserving your factory warranty. Anybody have any experience with this mod? It doesn't give you real big increases so it shouldn't be exceeding the tranny rating
 

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I wouldn't buy the Gforce...

boathauler93, I would save your money. Looks like Gforce is nothing more than a resistor trying to fool you Air Intake Temp, not a good idea. There is no controller/programmer that I know of that works with only a two wire hook up. Personally I would steer clear of this setup, just my two cents...
 

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boathauler93, I would save your money. Looks like Gforce is nothing more than a resistor trying to fool you Air Intake Temp, not a good idea. There is no controller/programmer that I know of that works with only a two wire hook up. Personally I would steer clear of this setup, just my two cents...
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You are right in your statement and I wasn't exactly the clearest, but I have a couple buddies that have had issues with a new truck that was turned up and they were both denied claims as the dealer found aftermarket mods that "over stressed" components which ultimately led to failure.

I just don't want to see some inexperienced individual that is on this forum make a decision that could ultimately cost thousands out of pocket due to a mod.

I 100% agree with you second point though. And others that are reading, do realize our trannys are only supposed to good for somewhere around the 515 ft.lbs. range. I saw one ad for a tuner that well exceeded that and first thing I thought of was that would be a great way to smoke a transmission.


Good advice and I can attest to it, having real world experience. It only cost me a few hundred dollars to get BIG horsepower gains on my Duramax, but $8K for repairs after overstressing it.
 
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